Møte 31 i FHIR fagforum
- Dato: 2025-09-10
- Klokkeslett: 1300-1500
- 47 personer innom møtet virtuelt (3 i møterom på Helsedirektoratet)
FHIR fagforum (FFF) er et åpent forum om bruk og implementering av HL7 FHIR i Norge. FFF er åpent for alle.
Agenda: Nordics and terminology
- Welcome, Thomas og Info fra HL7 Norway Øyvind, 10 min
- FHIR modernization effort in Denmark, 30 min Ole Vilstrup Møller (Medcom)
- Nordic terminology server collaboration, 20 min Mattias Colliander (HL7 Sweden)
- Technical implementation of server and demo, 20 min Vadim Peretokin
- Whats next for terminology coop nordic, 20 min Daniel Karlson (E‑hälsomyndigheten)
- How we use/plan to use this in Norway, 10 min Thomas T Rosenlund (Helsedirektoratet)
- Q&A 20 minutter
Presentations
- FHIR fagforum intro and use of terminology server in Norway
- Modernizing the danish message infrastructure with FHIR
- Term servers intro
- Nordic term server demo
- Sweden’s use of the nordic server and whats next
HL7 Norway intro
- Høring på EU-IG
- HL7 Norway have got some money from HTO for work on municipality/infrastructure components
- Domain profile ballot, ready for release!
- Courses and seminars proposals to post@hl7.no
FHIR modernization effort in Denmark
- FHIR messaging
- Firing up the National Danish healthcare messaging infrastructure with FHIR
- How EHMI embraces and enhances eDelivery with FHIR
Terminology nordic coop
- Context and background from Mattias Colliander
- A case for term servers
- CodeSystems, terminology and classifications
- A lot of organizations cooperate
- At some point we need to code information for interop.
- Do not build your own just don’t
- There are a lot of commercial available or open source, use that
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Term server is a Techincal issue - not ownership
- Term server - defined by FHIR in the terminology module
- How to serve concepts, codesystems and valuesets
- Production vs IG creation
- Transactional load performance, SLA
- Hard to deliver a stable service for production (clinical) use-case
- Creating IGs
- Readable and the national/local codesystems in our native language
- The termserver ecosstem is used for validation and expansion of national/regional/local codesystems/valuesets
- The ecosystem is built around tx.fhir.org
- tx.fhir.org has a list of what term server has a maintained version of that codesystem
- IG creation tooling can be used as normal, and still get national codesystems
- Started in Vitalis 2025
- why can’t you just run one
- xyz.fhir.org
- Broaden the scope of swedish term server to all of the nordics
- tx-nordics.fhir.org an instance of CSIRO’s Ontoserver
- HL7 Affiliate License
- interoperability standards development
- internal research and development
- NOT for production systems
- Common responsibility - HL7 Sweden put it up
- Maintained by the nordic HL7 affiliates
- Documented on HL7.or confluence (hl7 nordics)
- References and documentation
- (should be published on confluence)
Technical implementation and demo (Vadim Peretokin)
- Hosted in the cloud Cleura
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Open stack
- Can be accessed on the internet
- Dashboard
- Resources
- Terminology resources
- Valuesets, codesystems and namingsystems
- SNOMED editions from the nordics
- ConformanceResource
- operations
- resources supported
- Use the FHIR API of the server
- CSIRO have a postman collection
- Terminology browser Shrimp
- Translations are provided with the national editions
- Search for abbreviations of words
- ECL works on ontoserver
- Building IG’s from the tx-nordic
- Not for runtime use - you should syndicate to a local tx-server
Whats next for nordic coop - Daniel Karlsson
- What to use this terminology server for?
- Use-cases
- Publishing validationg FHIR IGs in the nordic countries
- Publishing codsystems in our FHIR IG’s not readily avilable in FHIR format
- NPU etc.
- publishing translations fo HL7 and other codesystems
- Codesystem maintenance and development (through IG’s)
- can be uploaded to the terminology server
- In the end we might not have to specify using the tx-nordic switch set when terminology nordic is recognized in the ecosystem
- Pulbication of FHIR IG says that missing codesystems leads to an expansion error in IG building.
- Responsibility to keep this updated with latest version
- Work with terminology provider to decide on FHIR representation
- Governance of the terminology server have to be decided.
- NPU terminology on FHIR
- Will be published on tx-nordics
- multi language IG’s
- Tooling in development
Q and A
- Inspiring work, would like to cooperate on updates of the Norwegian edition.
- SNOMED edtions plans to add support for participate in the ecosystem
- To host the nordic editions
- Syndication to the SNOMED CT update feed can be set up